Jared Crozier
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Location: Gatineau, QC Joined: 09.26.2014
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JN1980
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 06.13.2014
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Why does it always seem to be our better players getting hurt?
I dont expect an answer...
Wishing those 2 speedy recoveries
Lazar needs to stop with the hussies and Stone needs to wear a helmet full time going forward |
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"Our better players getting hurt"
Really? Lazar is one of your better players? I think not. Younger - yes
Prediction - this is Lazar's last season as a Senator. He never plays as a regular NHLer again
Kid just doesn't have it |
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Lazar entered the league as a teenager... he may have not lit the league on fire but hes a fringe nhler at worst... hes not going to get any better you're assuming? That's not a very astute evaluation. Hes likely to sign a one/two year deal at minimum to stay after this season and should he hit 30 points that would be considered a steal. Could he have used time on the bsens? Probably. But to say he won't be in the league after this year is s statement I'd bet against. |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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Lazar entered the league as a teenager... he may have not lit the league on fire but hes a fringe nhler at worst... hes not going to get any better you're assuming? That's not a very astute evaluation. Hes likely to sign a one/two year deal at minimum to stay after this season and should he hit 30 points that would be considered a steal. Could he have used time on the bsens? Probably. But to say he won't be in the league after this year is s statement I'd bet against. - MarkStoned
Just like Zibanejad, he won't get any better |
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Erik6Karlsson5
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Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB Joined: 01.23.2013
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Apparently Clark MacArthur got rocked in scrimmage as well. Had to be helped off the ice. This could be the worst case senario, career ending stuff
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ClarksonDavid
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Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK Joined: 03.15.2014
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Apparently Clark MacArthur got rocked in scrimmage as well. Had to be helped off the ice. This could be the worst case senario, career ending stuff - Erik6Karlsson5
Yup. That's too bad, hopefully he's okay. |
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FiretheGM
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 12.16.2011
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Apparently Clark MacArthur got rocked in scrimmage as well. Had to be helped off the ice. This could be the worst case senario, career ending stuff - Erik6Karlsson5
Whats with the fights in that game, I get it you go talk to the guy after and say something, but they started scrimmages for the rest of the game. |
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Erik6Karlsson5
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Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB Joined: 01.23.2013
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Whats with the fights in that game, I get it you go talk to the guy after and say something, but they started scrimmages for the rest of the game. - FiretheGM
I watched the video, both Ryan & Neil jumped seliof after hitting MacArthur from behind. I'd be surprised to ever see Mac play agian.
Peumple or Smith in the #2 LW spot |
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How hard do they usually play in those scrimmages? Seemed like somewhat of a regular hockey hit. I feel so bad for MacArthur
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JN1980
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 06.13.2014
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"Our better players getting hurt"
Really? Lazar is one of your better players? I think not. Younger - yes
Prediction - this is Lazar's last season as a Senator. He never plays as a regular NHLer again
Kid just doesn't have it - AxlRose91
Lazar is a 3rd liner at the moment and hasn't found his stride, whether that happens or not is up to him. I was referring to the past couple of seasons... Karlsson, Methot, Turris, Ryan, Anderson, MacArthur and now Stone and the list goes on. Injuries happen but its the first day of freaking camp and we're already down a full forward line. |
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Funny how a couple of injuries shows the tremendous lack of depth this team actually has. I guess some people need to see it for real to catch on. Time to bring in an additional top 6 forward and decent dman. If mac is truely concussed I'd write him off. Unfortunate to see a career end that way.
Lazar having mono = meh. Players have played through it before. He should be able to get the worst of it out of the way before there season. Steve mason played the best hockey of his career with the illness.
Injuries happen. You have to be prepared to have player step up when they happen. You lose one player from this roster and and the tires go flying. Especially when you compare it to other Nhl rosters.
Team is on the right track, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Still a long way to go. They again have not done a whole lot to improve this roster in the offseason. Swapping zibby for brasard is a bit of a wash. Signing our rfas was great but they likely can't take this team to the next level alone. I hope to see a move or two made before opening night. Even just a decent 4/5 dman. |
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AlfieisKing
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Lazar entered the league as a teenager... he may have not lit the league on fire but hes a fringe nhler at worst... hes not going to get any better you're assuming? That's not a very astute evaluation. Hes likely to sign a one/two year deal at minimum to stay after this season and should he hit 30 points that would be considered a steal. Could he have used time on the bsens? Probably. But to say he won't be in the league after this year is s statement I'd bet against. - MarkStoned
Just like Zibanejad, he won't get any better - walshyleafsfan
This statement makes it sound as if Zibanejad is a disappointment. If you put aside where he was taken - which I don't think makes sense but let's say you do - the guy is a 20g+ 50p+. As a 2-way center, that's solid; especially given his age. That said, he is no where close to a #1 center but could be a solid #2.
Lazar is a very different case. His defensive game and physical abilities have not yet been showcased in the NHL. I think his attitude will be very different and he COULD surpass MacArthur at times in the top 6; I think he would look really nice with a Hoffman and Turris at times. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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That MacArthur hit is disappointing.
Sadly it proves what his health status is. I really like the guy, but when you don't have an NHL point in over 16 months, I think that speaks volumes.
I really hope his career isn't over but right now the Sens have 5 top 6 forwards; none of which are stars (top 30 forwards in the NHL). I will say that atleaast 3 of them, possibly a forth, fall in the next 30. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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If there was ever a time for Matt Puempel to show what's he's got; it's now! |
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If stone is not 100% opening night we are going to have serious issues. Looks like peumple is getting a roster spot no matter what now. Makes the prince trade look even worse. I hope Smith doubled down on his offseason because he just became indispensable. Hope karlsson got better. |
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Mr_Clean
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Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB Joined: 08.09.2010
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Funny how a couple of injuries shows the tremendous lack of depth this team actually has. I guess some people need to see it for real to catch on. Time to bring in an additional top 6 forward and decent dman. If mac is truely concussed I'd write him off. Unfortunate to see a career end that way.
Lazar having mono = meh. Players have played through it before. He should be able to get the worst of it out of the way before there season. Steve mason played the best hockey of his career with the illness.
Injuries happen. You have to be prepared to have player step up when they happen. You lose one player from this roster and and the tires go flying. Especially when you compare it to other Nhl rosters.
Team is on the right track, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Still a long way to go. They again have not done a whole lot to improve this roster in the offseason. Swapping zibby for brasard is a bit of a wash. Signing our rfas was great but they likely can't take this team to the next level alone. I hope to see a move or two made before opening night. Even just a decent 4/5 dman. - Gord_Wilson_2.0
We did finish 9th in goal scoring last year with no MacArthur and 30 games of healthy Turris. Obviously, having some ability to replace MacArthur would be ideal... But I've been given the impression that there are budgetary restraints involved, so I'd imagine the best we're likely to see is an Ales Hemsky-esque 'solution' at the trade deadline.
Of course, ideally we'd have 2nd and 3rd lines that were essentially interchangeable. But that is a luxury few teams have. Hopefully one of Smith, Puempel, etc., will be able to contribute in the top 6.... And, hopefully, we can pick up that decent 4/5 dman!
Emphatic agree with the bolded. I think this could be an enjoyable season with the right level of expectations. Expectations should be a fight for a wild card spot, a team developing some structure, and the foundation laid for a playoff round win or two next season. With that in mind, we should be good to go |
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I knew there was a significant chance that Mac was going to come back and get one hit and be done in the NHL.
It's super sad to see a talent like that have his career cut short but at this point he has his life to think about and it's just not worth the risk coming back.
I've seen this kind of thing before and some guys just don't bounce back from a head injury. I think Crosby was EXTREMELY lucky to have made it back to the NHL and also returned to top form to boot. For Clark however this was the final straw and yet another hole in the sinking ship that is the Ottawa Senators line up.
Truly sorry to see this happen to Clark. I wish him a speedy recovery and peace in the undoubted soul searching he will be embarking on after this hit.
Back to the drawing board for Dorian I guess. |
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JN1980
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 06.13.2014
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I knew there was a significant chance that Mac was going to come back and get one hit and be done in the NHL.
It's super sad to see a talent like that have his career cut short but at this point he has his life to think about and it's just not worth the risk coming back.
I've seen this kind of thing before and some guys just don't bounce back from a head injury. I think Crosby was EXTREMELY lucky to have made it back to the NHL and also returned to top form to boot. For Clark however this was the final straw and yet another hole in the sinking ship that is the Ottawa Senators line up.
Truly sorry to see this happen to Clark. I wish him a speedy recovery and peace in the undoubted soul searching he will be embarking on after this hit.
Back to the drawing board for Dorian I guess. - Sens.sational
Yeah I hate to say it but maybe Clarke should be thinking about himself, his future and his family's future at this point... Its about now and later for him. Who knows the effects this and potentially more concussions can have and I would totally respect him if he were to step away from the game at this point.
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Mac was done even before training camp.
You could tell just from his interviews that he was extremely nervous. He talked about having anxiety when he thought about playing again.
Mac is the type of player that needs to be gritty and win puck battles all over the ice to be effective.
Best case scenario, he would have stayed healthy, but he would have been a shell of himself. The odds of him actually coming back to play the same style he did before was basically 0. He would have had to pretty much float around for him not to get another head injury.
I hate to say it, and I don't want to sound harsh or uncaring, but it's almost better that this happened now as opposed to 10-20 games into the season. This way, we can have someone else play in that role for all of training camp and get up to speed. Also, it will be easier to make a trade, or sign someone now than later.
I hope for his own health he hangs them up. His contract is guaranteed. I would assume that if he had a ton of anxiety before this hit, he will make the right decision now. |
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If stone is not 100% opening night we are going to have serious issues. Looks like peumple is getting a roster spot no matter what now. Makes the prince trade look even worse. I hope Smith doubled down on his offseason because he just became indispensable. Hope karlsson got better. - MarkStoned
Prince is not a top 6 NHL forward. Neither is Puempel.
We are going to have to hope that either Smith steps up like he did last year, or Lazar can finally show the potential he supposedly has.
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JN1980
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 06.13.2014
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